- FTSE 100 finishes 23 pts higher, but FTSE 250 slides
- Wall Street stocks up
- US, China trade talks set to resume tomorrow
5.15pm: Footsie closes ahead
FTSE 100 index closed in positive territory on Wednesday, while Wall Street also gained as traders decided to be more upbeat on tomorrow's resumption of US, China trade talks having been pessimistic on Tuesday.
The UK blue chip index ended 23.35 points higher at 7,166.50. Its mid-cap cousin FTSE 250 went the other way though, shedding 29.30 points to finish at 19,171.60 as Brexit jitters continue to dent the more domestic company focused index with it reported that negotiations between the EU and UK had now ceased.
On Wall Street, around London's close, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up 172.9 points at 26,337.02, while the S&P 500 index gained 25.4 at 2,918.3, rallying after big falls in the previous session.
"Traders breathed a sigh of relief that there were no more negative headlines ahead of the US – Sino trade talks, due to start tomorrow," noted Fiona Cincotta, at spreadbetting group City Index.
"With the Trump administration blacklisting 28 Chinese tech firms and limiting Chinese officials visa the talks had looked destined to fail even before they had begun. However, more recently this afternoon, reports are circulating that China is still interested in achieving a deal, just a much more limited deal and on the condition that no more tariffs are imposed by Trump."
Traders on both sides of the Pond were also eyeing the release later today of minutes from the last Federal Reserve meeting, when interest rates were cut to see if that dovish trend will follow and to see the reasons for the cut.
3.50pm: Footsie gives up some gains
London investors are not proving as ebullient as their US peers about China trade news, with the B word, either Boris or Brexit or both, hobbling those trading trigger fingers.
The FTSE 100 has given up some of its earlier gains, now up 27 points or 0.4% at 7,170.22, compared to the 0.7%, 0.8% and 0.9% seen for Wall Street's Dow Jones, S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite indices across the pond.
Germany's Dax is Europe's biggest gainer, reflecting the weighing of trade concerns on that nation.
Sterling continues to tread water, with market analyst Connor Campbell at Spreadex saying the currency is “trying to ignore claims that a no deal Brexit is a dangerously realistic scenario as it hopes that reports the EU is willing to extend the deadline to next summer are true”.
Against the dollar, the pound was flat at just below 1.222, while down a further 0.2% against the euro at 1.1129.
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2.50pm: US markets kick off in the green[hhmc]
Wall Street has started Wednesday on the front foot as traders took heart from renewed optimism over global trade.
Shortly after the opening bell, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up 0.6% to 26,320 while the S&P 500 climbed 0.64% to 2,912 and the Nasdaq rose 0.78% to 7,885.
However, it wasnt all positives across the Atlantic, with concerns about the ongoing strike at car-making giant General Motors Co (NYSE:GM) combining with others industrials headwinds.
“The strike at General Motors, together with continued problems at Boeing, means that the incoming manufacturing data over the next month or two will go from bad to terrible”, said US economist Michael Pearce for the London-based research firm.
He added however that while the striking workers were key to their expectations that US economic growth would slow in the fourth quarter, it was likely to pick up again quickly once the disputes were resolved, making it “a reason to be sceptical of claims the economy is on the brink of a recession”.
“We already expected GDP growth to slow to 1% annualised in the fourth quarter. The problems at GM and Boeing raise the risks of a worse outturn. That will inevitably raise fears of a recession, but output will rebound as those disruptions are cleared. We still think a soft landing is the most likely outcome”, CE concluded.
In London, the FTSE 100 was 36 points higher at 7,180.
2.15pm: Wall Street to head higher as trade tensions appear to cool
The US markets are expected to start Wednesday on the front foot after new reports appeared to show that the US and China were attempting to ease tensions ahead of talks on Thursday.
A Bloomberg report that China would be open to a limited trade deal with the US on condition of no more tariff hikes as well as a Financial Times piece indicating that China had also offered to increase purchases of US agricultural products by 50% to around US$50bn have boosted optimism among traders that both sides are trying to reach an agreement and end the trade war.
However, if a deal is to be agreed it may need to happen during this round of talks, as US import duties on US$250bn-worth of Chinese goods are due to increase to 30% from 25% on 15 October.
Aside from the trade news, investors will also be awaiting the latest minutes from the last meeting of the Federal Reserve, and whether any insight can be gleaned around the possibility of another interest rate cut before the end of the year.
Meanwhile, in London, the FTSE 100 was 34 points higher at 7,178 into mid-afternoon.
12.20pm: ING analysts cautious on trade deal chances
While the news of a potential small trade offer from China has provided some optimism for the markets, analysts at ING remain cautious, saying there is “scant evidence” that the two sides will be able to move enough to break the current deadlock.
The Dutch bank said that despite positive signals in the recent news cycle, the chances of a deal happening quickly were “low” as Donald Trump would need to remove some of his demands on China and had already said he did not want to strike a mini deal with Beijing.
“We think it's possible that a further deterioration in the US economy could lead Trump to take a few steps back, but he has to walk a fine line. Trump won't want to give in so much that he's viewed as a loser in the trade war”, ING said.
“He recently said he still wanted a broad agreement rather than something narrower in scope. Trump is feeling the pressure from Democrats and hard liners within his own party to remain tough on China and push for more than just a deal on trade flows.”
“But this gives him little room for manoeuvre since China is adamant it will not give up its sovereignty in setting industrial policy objectives or its autonomy in granting direct or indirect state subsidies to Chinese firms. For China, it's also unacceptable that only the US can decide whether compliance with a deal is sufficient to undo the tariff hikes”, analysts added.
With a breakthrough looking unlikely, ING concluded that the best result for the upcoming talks would be for the US to delay higher tariffs expected to enter force of 15 October in exchange for a Chinese commitment to increase purchases of American agricultural and energy products.
In lunchtime trading, the FTSE 100 had risen slightly and was up 35 points at 7,178.
11.30am: FTSE 100 gains as China offers partial trade deal to ease tensions
As midday approached the FTSE 100 was back on the ascent after news that China signalled its openness to a partial trade deal with the US in a bid to ease tensions between the worlds two largest economies.
According to a report from Bloomberg, China said it would accept a limited deal provided Donald Trump did not impose any more tariffs on its exports, including two more sets of hikes that are set to take effect this month and in December.
No end to trade war but trade deal/partial trade deal still part of the play book???????? pic.twitter.com/L10jRaTafd
— Trinh Nguyen (@Trinhnomics) October 9, 2019
In return, the report said Beijing would offer concessions on agricultural products and other non-core areas, although further details on these were not offered.
The news provided a small boost for Londons traders, with the FTSE 100 up 37 points at 7,180 in late-morning.
On the company front, broadcaster ITV PLC (LON:ITV) was the biggest blue-chip riser, up 2.1% at 121.8p, while fire alarm and hazard detection specialist Halma PLC (LON:HLMA) was at the bottom of the pile after falling 1.8% to 1,899p.
Meanwhile, the pound was also mounting a partial rebound, rising 0.11% to US$1.2231 against the dollar after a report emerged from The Times that the EU was ready to make a major concession to Boris Johnson in an attempt to agree a Brexit deal.
The report said governments in Europe were preparing to offer the ability for the Northern Ireland Assembly in Stormont to unilaterally revoke a withdrawal agreement after a set time frame, provided the move received cross-community support in the region.
Such a proposal would remove a key sticking point in the negotiations and potentially provide a chance to agree a new Brexit deal before a crunch EU summit next week, although fears of a no-deal Brexit are likely to continue to linger in the background after the Bank of England warned today that a disorderly exit could present "material risks" of economic disruption.
10.15am: FTSE 100 loses some steam; Just Eat up as Takeaway.com reports jump in orders
Going into mid-morning, the FTSE 100 had lost some of its steam but was managing to stay in the green with an 18 point gain at 7,161.
Positive performances from financial stocks were helping the index keep its head above water despite concerns over trade and global economic health, with HSBC Holdings PLC (LON:HSBA) up 0.4% at 601.4p while Barclays also rose 0.4% to 144.5p just after 10am.
Meanwhile, Just Eat PLC (LON:JE.) continued to look tasty for investors, rising 0.9% to 630.8p, after Takeaway.com, with which it is due to merge in a £9bn deal, reported that total orders in its third quarter had almost doubled to 41.6mln from 22.3mln in the prior year.
The strong numbers may assuage some investors around the benefits of the merger, which was originally announced in August but has attracted criticism over its value.
Last month, one of Just Eats major shareholders, hedge fund Eminence Capital, suggested that the merger was “grossly inadequate” and undervalued Just Eat, following similar resistance from fellow investor Aberdeen Standard.
8.45am: FTSE 100 opens on the front foot
The FTSE 100 got off to a slightly better-than-expected start on Wednesday, rising 24 points to 7,168 shortly after the start of the session.
Leading the blue-chip risers in early trading was Just Eat PLC (LON:JE.), which was 3.1% higher at 645p, while the top faller was bookmaker Flutter Entertainment PLC (LON:FLTR) after it dropped 1.9% to 7,726p.
Flutters woes may have been down to a strong third-quarter performance from its FTSE 250 rival, Ladbrokes owner GVC Holdings PLC (LON:GVC), which nudged up its full-year profit guidance following what it said was a “positive start” to trading in the US.
Meanwhile, some traders will be keeping their powder dry ahead of the Fed minutes later today, with Markets.coms Neil Wilson saying the minutes could provide insight into the “level is discord” among the central banks monetary policy committee and where it is likely to go next.
“We know that market expectations are highly tilted towards a further [interest rate] cut in October, and eco data has of late been softer. The ISM figures that have come out since the meeting will support the case for cuts”, Wilson said.
He added that trade and Brexit may also provide the case for a rate cut alongside “general uncertainty around the global economy and trade”.
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